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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:08 pm 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 3:30 pm 
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well, there can be none more spoilers than that.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 3:36 pm 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 3:46 pm 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:57 am 
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Im just glad Last Jedi is FINALLY getting people to see that the Empire are actually the Good Guys of the Star Wars films!

The original Empire did nothing inherently "evil" (Aalderan was a military target, not an unarmed peacenik defenseless utopia) and only wanted to restore Order to the galaxy.

When a trade federation can shut down a planet, and your Republic cant do anything about it, your system is flawed. Palpatine merely wanted to fix the system....

Until a bunch of elitist religious nut jobs with space laser swords fucked it all up. There's a reason their general was named Ackbar... watch Rogue one and it further cements the fact that the rebels are terrorists. They kill their own, torture prisoners, and use almost every terrorist tactic on the Empire throughout that movie.

Now, the New Order.... Yeah. They're bad. But what brought them about? The rebels!

By killing the emperor, they destroyed the one man holding everything in place. Now every general in the empire becomes a warlord. Its militaristic might with no vision.

These fractured groups of course are going to become untied under a some sort of space Stalin, when the guidance and leadership of the emperor was removed.

I mean, what was the rebels big plan to replace the power vacuum they were creating?

And when the opportunity to address any of this is presented, force awakens drops the ball but sets up a few cool things... that last Jedi just throws out the window in favor of space casino (more action figures of wacky aliens, kids!), ANOTHER charecter who suddenly, magically, knows all the ways of the force without being trained or ever using them before (flying space leia, I'm looking in your direction) and unceremoniously killing off the few interesting charecters.

"Wow that Captain Phasma is pretty cool. I wonder what her story is? I'm sure we'll learn more in the next movie. I mean, a woman who's risen in the ranks of the empire, and has that cool shiney armor. I mean she didn't get to do much, but i bet in last Jedi she'll kick some ass!"

Bet again suckers! You lose. Space Leprechuan who needs glasses and thinks bb8 is a slot machine wins!

Two and a half hours and we ignore everything that could have been cool to get a hamfisted lecture about war profiteering at action figure casino.

Feh.

All i know is that if i owned a bbq joint, I'd be selling the chicken as "Pulled Porg Sandwiches" right now.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:52 am 
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Leia being force sensitive has already been established.
Its how she knew where Luke was while he was clinging to one of those old fashioned TV antennas underneath Bedpan..or whatever that floating city is called.
The fact that she displays some kind of "force power" doesn't bother me. The fact that it suddenly manifests itself in the dumbest fucking way possible....yea, that I have an issue with.
Not to mention it just being plain idiotic, it looks wonky as hell. The whole thing ended up looking like bad anime.
And as far as I'm concerned, there is no good anime.
So..yea...bullshit.

Luke's turn into a different character- meh...didn't bother me too much. But I get the gripe.
Same thing with the humor. Didn't bother me as much as it did in Thor: Ragemycöck because it wasn't constant joke after joke after joke.
And because there's already a prescient for it. Han Solo was a wise ass through all three original movies.

Again, what I can not abide by is the inclusion of bullshit for the sake of bullshit.
That casino scene HAD ABSOLUTELY NO REASON to be in the movie except to pad the run time and sell toys. Period the end.
Not one beat of that subplot had any consequence within the movie. Cut the whole thing out and the movie gets to the same place.

Porgs, fish nun, crystal chandelier foxes, Black BB8, Captain Phasma, the dehydrated orange with the butthole eyes from the first movie, every single character in the casino...all of them - served absolutely NO PURPOSE except to sell toys. Not one of them actually did anything in the movie. They were just "there".

At this point, I really don't even need to see a continuation of this story.
I don't really care what happens to anyone here.
Keep making one off movies like Rogue One. I'm fine with that.
Or stop making Star Wars movies before fatigue sets in.
That works too.

And Sully, you can sell your Pulled Porg Sandwiches at my All You Can Eat SmorgasPorg restaurant.
Take the south ramp off Exit 71. Make a left. We're half a mile down. Right next to Perkins.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:21 pm 
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And Sully, you can sell your Pulled Porg Sandwiches at my All You Can Eat SmorgasPorg restaurant.
Take the south ramp off Exit 71. Make a left. We're half a mile down. Right next to Porkins.


did i really need to fixt that?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:25 pm 
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Shit. Sully and Vee are convincing me.
My perspective is way off because I watch it with a 10 year old girl.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:28 pm 
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When a trade federation can shut down a planet, and your Republic cant do anything about it, your system is flawed.

THIS! RIGHT HERE!

Sully, you nailed it.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:20 pm 
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When a trade federation can shut down a planet, and your Republic cant do anything about it, your system is flawed.

Just art imitating life.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:17 pm 
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Life and art indeed.... the original star wars was Lucas' anti-vietnam movie. He wanted to make Apocalypse Now, but the studio passed him over.

So yeah... that rag tag group of rebels and laser sword wielding religious fanatics you're cheering for.... they're the Viet Cong.... and all those stormtroopers who get massacred? Poor u.s. soldiers.

Ready to join the Empire yet?

See, because that's the other thing. You COULD! The Empire didnt discriminate.

Three guesses where Han Solo learned to fly starships....

Yup. The Empire. Giving anyone who wanted it a leg up and a chance to bring peace and order to the galaxy.

Now, if you wanted to be a Jedi.... Sorry, your midichlorian count is too low. You're too old. Too poor. Too angry. Too scared. Too blonde. Not Blonde enough.

Only the select chosen few get to be Jedi. And they can and will say no for any reason they want.

Bunch of elitist religious wackadoos who believe that anything they did is right. Going so far as to call the way they use the force the "light side" and anyone who doesn't agree is "dark side" and must be destroyed.

And as much as i didn't like Last Jedi, Luke finally seeing the truth.... Seeing that HE was the bad guy... that the Jedi order needs to end.. (well, until he completely flip flops at the end)... well, that was actually pretty insightful and profound for a minute... until we went back to jokes and action figure casino.

Oh well. I'm sure episode 9 will clear it all up, and we'll finally find out how Snoke was able to unite the broken warlord factions of the empire into... oh wait, that right. He went out like a chump. No need to tell his story. Well, maybe we'll go back to the casino for ep 9. I wanna see more of that hilarious outrageous space leprechaun who loves gold! Greatest thing since jar jar blinks!

We can only hope....

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:24 pm 
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...oh and also....Luke titty squeezing a sea cow to get green milk is just fucking disgusting.


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