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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:37 pm 
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I had a debate last year with one of my customers (I own a MCM furnture store, but we're closed for a few months while we look for a new location) about the Norwegian connection to tiki...namely Thor Heyerdahl. This came up because I had described this Witco style piece as being good for a tiki bar and this customer said it wasn't tiki because it depicted a trio of Viking ships, and Vikings have nothing to do with tiki culture. I argeud that it did have a connection to tiki due to Thor Heyerdahl being Norwegian and Kon-tiki...you get the gist. I still think it's tiki and I still have this piece (in storage with the rest of my shop's inventory) and I think we may keep it.
So what do you all think? Are viking ships tiki? Do they belong in a tiki bar?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:51 pm 
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To me, nautical carvings--especially Witco--are certainly in the spirit of tiki, if not tiki themselves. I don't generally get too hung up on "what is tiki." :) I have all kinds of crap that doesn't belong (Mayan stuff, Kokopelli) in my tiki room.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:17 pm 
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Exactly! This was the point I was trying to make! The customer was jus so insistent that the Thor Heyerdahl connection wasn't valid enough.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:41 am 
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This would be my reply to that customer:

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But, seriously, the era + witco + nautical/water + Thor + the style. It would fit well in any tiki bar. Just because it doesn't literally have a tiki on it does not exclude it :roll: :roll:


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:25 am 
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I find a "Tikified" area more interesting if it has other elements besides just Tiki. I've snuck in some of my other passions into our decor, such as old horror/sci fi movies.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:23 am 
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When you allow a viking ship Witco in the tiki bar, it starts the descent down the slippery slope that ends with akvavit in your suffering bastard.

Is the customer saying you are misrepresenting the piece? It's not like the provenance of a woven jade screen is in question in Florida.

People who exclude interesting art from their Tiki bars because they are concerned about what others think is or is not tiki are destined to have very boring, bland, beige tiki bars which are not tiki. The whole can be less than the sum of the parts.

Btw, only Swedish art can be true Scandinavian tiki.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:45 am 
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I think that is an awesome piece. I'm not going to lie my tiki stuff has a strong Norwegian theme with it (Norwegian trolls). I was in Norway last summer where I saw the signs for the Kon-tiki museum and became very excited (I didn't know anything about it) my Norwegian friend was really confused, explained what the Kon-tiki museum was about and I explained tiki culture (I don't think she fully understood perhaps due to language barriers?) I would hang it in my tiki room. (if I had one instead of a random collection)


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:55 am 
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This...

Princess Pupule wrote:
This would be my reply to that customer:

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Just because it doesn't literally have a tiki on it does not exclude it :roll: :roll:



And this...

Riptide wrote:
I find a "Tikified" area more interesting if it has other elements besides just Tiki. I've snuck in some of my other passions into our decor, such as old horror/sci fi movies.


I find the idea that a Tiki Bar, especially your own personal Tiki Bar, has to conform to a specific set of rules or aesthetic guidelines to be absolutely ridiculous.
My tiki bar incorporates all kinds of eclectic items. And there are some things that are not even remotely tiki, that for whatever reason, have bled over into the culture. The Creature from the Black Lagoon being the first thing that comes to mind.

Hell, even the fez is inherently a "tiki" item but we all seem to have adopted it without question.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:55 am 
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I would proudly hang that piece in my basement tiki bar, then make Viking Fogcutters.

Also, check out how close the Kon-Tiki Museum and Viking Ship Museum are to each other in Oslo.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 12:44 pm 
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I think aesthetic ultra-purity can be extremely awesome, but practically unobtainable.

I have what I call a "Witco room", and I intended to only add Witco items that were Tiki. Then, because there's also a piano in that room, I decided some Witco musical instruments would work too (still looking). Then I stumbled upon a bench in the wild that was Witco, but not necessarily Tiki, then a Witco cat or two along the way, and then I realized I'd owned one of those Witco iron sculptures of a Spanish Knight like Don Quixote for ever. They're all in the Witco room.

If I'd only used Witco Tiki items, it certainly would have been really awesome, but I don't think I'd give up any of those pieces. (maybe one of the two long necked horse magazine racks) ;-)

I suppose if I were uber rich I probably would have an exclusively Tiki Tiki Lounge, but I think I'd have to have a hybrid one too!!


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:54 pm 
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Decorate how you want with what you like. From TheGraniteTiki's WITCO room, to Princess P's Velvet Elvis Loo (and the rest of her bar) or my own Kapu Cove, every room will be personalized and different...and awesome.
OZ :fez:

PS: Yes, I have some conquistador pieces, a sword, guitar and sailboat mural, all WITCO, and all displayed.

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